Hi - I've been wondering about this for a while now, and I haven't been able to find anywhere online that discusses this topic. It applies to all orchid naming, not just to Phals of course. Let me describe more clearly what I'm talking about. Suppose you have this aweosme looking hybrid that's named Phal. (a x (b x c)), but checking the RHS registry, you notice that Phal. (b x c) has not been registered. However, you really want to name it because, well, it needs a name of it's own, not some long awkward name! (You can give it it's own clonal name of course, but it still has all that "stuff" before you get to the name.) So then you do some research to see if anyone has Phal. (b x c) or who actually originated that cross, but you have no luck whatsoever. It must have been years since that cross was made, and you figure no one's gonna bother naming it now if it hasn't already been named. You also realize that it'll be virtually impossible to remake Phal. (b x c) in order to register that hybrid legitimately because you can't find Phal. b or Phal. c anywhere. So my question is, can you name Phal. (b x c) even though you don't have it and have never seen it before? It just seems hard for me to believe that certain hybrids are "doomed" to be nameless forever. Also, what if Phal. (a x (b x c)) wins an award, say an HCC/AOS? Would this plant still be barred from having a real name?

I'm specifically asking because I have a plant just like this that is in bud now that I really want to name once it opens. Thanx!

Jason

Jason, I have been through this process several times over the years. You can register the plant as Originator Unknown by explaining the situation to the Registrar. In order to name a cross that you have it is occasionally required that a previous cross that you have never seen be given a name. I am sure that the Registrar will work with you on this. I saw a similar case in just the last group of plants registered that appeared on the list in the most recent issue of "Phalaenopsis".
Dean

Thanks Dean! I have a (Java Rose x Yungho Gelbliambo) x gigantea that is budding now and should bloom in a couple weeks I think. It should be very interesting! I'll definitely post pics when it blooms.